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Morg~
05-14-2002, 03:20 PM
Star wars rocks!
Yes I will be spending a good 6 hours or so in line for seats tomorrow even if it sucks and w00! it's gonna be awesome and I can't wait to go. And when it's over, even if it sucks, I'll be glad I went and saw it because it's star wars and I cannot betray something I've practically carved into my skin.
I know episode one sucked in a way, but in a way it was good. It reminded us that crazy ass special effects and lots of light bulbs don't make a good movie, and this was in the time where special effects were everything, and now you see effects are a wee bit more humble, even tho it's partly due to advancing technology.
But it doesn't matter, because star wars kicks ass......oh if only I could see Grand Admiral Thrawn on the big screen......
*creams pants
Dasyati
05-14-2002, 03:55 PM
It's out TOMORROW? dammit
lonewolf{MP}
05-14-2002, 04:03 PM
anyone wanna touch my lightsabre?
Morg~
05-14-2002, 04:17 PM
I see your lightsabre is older than mine...heehee
xSauronx
05-15-2002, 06:44 PM
gotta love star wars...not the prequels, but hell. Im going to get tickets tomorrow for the afternoon show (curse the theatres, STAR WARS is opening and they start selling tickets at lunch when the first show starts at 1 pm)
Anyway, Episode one sucked, the action was good, and Darth Maul was a bad ass who cant be beat (the Obiwan slash-move was BS, Darth is with Elvis)
Anyway, number 2 is gonna suck, but i heard one guy say "its star wars, you cant NOT go see star wars". Hes right, against my better judgement im going to waste the cash and see episode 2 anyway, knowing its gonna suck.
Well, at least Ill get to see Yoda kick the shit out of some people.
oh
fuck you all, wheeeeee
Dasyati
05-15-2002, 09:19 PM
No, you know what was bullshit, Darth Maul impaled Qui Gon, WTF was up with that!!! WHO STABS SOMEONE WITH A LIGHTSABER it isnt even possible to DO that cleanly u know.
Morg~
05-16-2002, 02:01 AM
Episode 2 kicked ass
I am totally blown away, it was everything I hoped for.
Yoda is still my hero.
xSauronx
05-16-2002, 06:13 PM
holy shit
Just got back from Episode 2 and my god...i was pissed. Anakin is a pussy and....hes a pussy! he cries cries cries!
gah
Anyway, god-awful screenplay, sweet as hell action scenes: basically any scene with a lightsaber is gonna be decent or great, and its worth seeing the movie just to watch Samuel L Jackson and Yoda kick some ass.
oh, ewan mcgregor sucks, really bad, i now hate obi-wan, alot, and count dooku has a dumbass name and a queer as hell lightsaber.
xSauronx
I find your lack of faith disturbing.
Mr_Rage
05-16-2002, 07:04 PM
I thought the film was generally well done...still nothing close to the epic standard set by the original 3 movies, but it sure beats the living hell out of Episode 1 - then again, the movie "Glitter" beat the hell out of Episode 1, so maybe this isn't saying much :)
Episode 2 = full of action...way moreso than Episode 1, and it toned down the childish appeal quite a bit. Jar Jar still makes a few cameo appearances, but he's not nearly as annoying as Episode 1. The action scenes are great - light saber fights were neat, but nothing really new. The giant battle following a nicely done "Gladiator" sequence are the film's high points - the special effects were fantastic for the battle sequence...but it's strange how they make a battle of some several thousand droids and storm troopers look so good, when they can't make a simple alien-monster look good.
Anywho - It was definitely entertaining, that's for sure. The dialogue is pretty crappy, and Yoda's backwords phrasing is overdone "Tie my shoe, I must." Samuel L. Jackson proves once again that he still is 100% pwnage, and the Yoda fight scene was certainly entertaining, if not hilarious (think Mini Me martial arts).
Overall, worth the $5.50 i paid to see it (bwahaha). It didn't have much story to be honest, and it didn't really make me want to know what's going to happen in Episode 3 (thus is the trend ever since Episode 1 came out)...Since Episode 1, i've lost interest in the epic story, and now it's just sort of to see the neat fights and effects - hopefully Episode 3 will renew my faith in the Star Wars legacy and storyline. Nonetheless, I'm willing to consider Episode 2 a good film.
xSauronx
05-17-2002, 02:53 PM
Ive got a not-so-gummy-anymore gummy worm that says Ep3 wont renew anyonse faith in anything, just point out that ILM does awesome effects, and George Lucas should have hired out writing the screenplay to someone else
if nothing else, Yoda rules...but I thought Darth Maul ruled, and in the end theyre both dead...fuck
Dasyati
05-18-2002, 08:33 PM
K, I saw it. I liked it, much nicer than Episode I. My dad said it was nearly as good as the original. :/
GG Count Dooku and his LIGHT-GUNBLADE-SABER-BANANA...and the hardest to follow fight sequences ever
(Wut if it wuz double bladed tho? It'd look like a bat'leth or sumfin...or would he get sued by a BIG company then)
positiveChAoS
05-19-2002, 01:38 AM
I just saw it - I loved it :)
Yoda = pwns. I was waiting for it.... and then after he's done, he goes back to limping around - LOL
ALOT happens in this movie. It makes me a little nervous that not too much is left for Episode 3. We'll see I guess.
My real question now is, how long they gonna soak this one til they decide to release the last one? Hopefully not too far off. But I bet at least 2 years :|
Dasyati
05-19-2002, 01:47 AM
But the whole Yoda thing went TOO QUICK! Tho it must've been fun for the actor to try and duel convincingly with thin air.
It'll only be say a year and a half, after all it's gotta compete with LOTR
positiveChAoS
05-19-2002, 01:51 AM
jeah - forgot about LOTR... plus theres another Star Trek movie coming soon too - Star Wars attracts most of the Trek croud too.
oh - and what do you mean thin air? I am SURE it was actual footage. Although they simulate sounds for the space ships in the vacuum of space for effect (we all know sound needs something to travel through), I am certain that the fight seems were actual footage. :p
positiveChAoS
05-19-2002, 02:26 AM
this site lists May of 2005... :\
its worse than I thought.
http://www.episode-x.com/episode3/release/
lonewolf{MP}
05-19-2002, 10:11 AM
Uhmmm, Yoda was complete 100% CG, and all of the fight scenes were done in front of a blue screen.
Absolute best line of the movie though was C3PO saying " I can't feel my legs, I think I need maintenance"
Ep3 will have so much in it, it is just getting started and they have a long list of things to cover for EP4.
Morg~
05-19-2002, 03:52 PM
Agreed, they'll need three years.
Dasyati
05-19-2002, 09:02 PM
I swear C3PO and R2D2 were MORE ANNOYING than Jar Jar Binks in Episode 2. All they did was make dumb jokes. "Oh, I'm beside myself *BADUM-PSSHHH*"
You know, I keep thinking about this thing with the sound in space, what really bugs me is not only that you could HEAR everything in space, but the charges came with a sound DELAY (and yet the other weapons, at similar distances, did not)
Of course this isn't to say that sequence didn't kick ass. I THINK IT KICKED MAJOR ASS.
Episode 3!!! /me hopes for a sex scene for all the 5 year olds who sat behind me. Should've gone to the back like those punks who came in and immediately said "fuck, let's go to the fuckin' back, fuck"
FunHater
05-19-2002, 09:33 PM
It was a decent movie. The screenplay appears to be a little thin, but I think we can attribute that more to Lucas' directing than writing. If he had colaborated with a good director, I believe he could have done a much better screenplay.
Also, Yoda owns! Loved that scene, but it was too short. Dooku bitched out way too soon.
Sam Jackson....wow, loved that too.
I'm pumped for Episode 3. So much could happen. I'm thinking Boba Fett is gonna try to get revenge on Mace. And I believe that it is already part of Star Wars history that Obi Wan and Anakin have a big showdown in which Obi Wan leaves Anakin battered (hence the suit). So that is gonna be a sweet fight! And then of course Vader will have to hunt down the remaining Jedi and slaughter them, maybe they could do a nice little montage of him offing the Jedi. In short, Episode 3 has a lot of potential. But I think it'll probably disappoint because George Lucas isn't a good director.
I disagree with Sauron, I think Obi Wan is the best character (after Yoda, of course).
Morg~
05-19-2002, 09:50 PM
If I hadn't seen the other four Star Wars movies, I would think Attack of the Clones was 90 minutes of shit and 45 minutes of decent movie. Having seen the others, though, I think this one is 90 minutes of shit and 45 minutes of really good movie. It's not a great swashbuckling adventure like the first one, and it's not a personal story like the second. For the first two-thirds it's a bad Piers Anthony novel complete with lousy puns and cheap double entendres. No, wait, it's worse: it's like seriously discussing a bad Piers Anthony novel with a high school science fiction club. The last third, though, is when Yoda kicks ass, the moody teen Anakin shuts the hell up and the movie finally feels like Star Wars. That's worth the price of admission.
xSauronx
05-20-2002, 02:21 PM
I think im gonna go see it again this weekend, and skip the first hour and a half, god almighty did it suck.
and Obi Wan DOES suck...i liked him in 4-6 but Ewan McGregor is even worse with a terrible script than I had imagined, gah
And I foresee that....number is gonna blow. He has to Kill ALL the Jedi, Turn "Annie" into Vader, continue/end the clone wars, set Palpatine up as Emperor, get rid of Amidala but only AFTER she has some kids that get hidden where Vader used to live...which, by the way, is where he starts out in Episode 4 (hint fucking hint you moron)
and after he puts all that in an hour and a half...another 45 minutes of lightsabers, saviour of Lucas, because....what the hell is cooler than a fucking laser sworD?
Xcalibur
05-20-2002, 03:38 PM
I saw it saturday and i thought overall it was an above average movie, but definatly needed work to be amazing.
The story seemed rushed at times, but then slower than molasses in january other times. I am one of the few people that liked the whole "Anikan/Amidala Love Scene", because i know it is essential to set up the future plot. however i think they could have condensed it a bit and still gotten the point across. Anikan would have looked like less of a pussy if maybe he took a little bit more time before he fell head over heals in love with amidala. i know the movie had lots of scenes you had to just swollow just get over, but its a little hard for me to believe a 10 year old kid is able to realize true love to a girl that looked about 17. Ep1 she was sort of his babysitter, and now all of a sudden she is his eternal love? It should have been approached as more of an Braveheart-esque storyline where he remembers the girl, but isn't immediatly in love with her. If they had shortened the love scenes a bit, and made the death of his mother a more dramatic scene (too rushed to truely get the impact it was supposed to have) then maybe we could get a better sense of how anikan is feeling without all his crying.
They should have shortened the Obi-Won on the clone planet a bit, and kept the sequence as a whole instead of jumping around between that and Anikan's affairs. The only major thing accomplished in that segment was we find out that the republic has an army, and we learn about the bounty hunter. this part dragged and dragged and dragged.
The ending fight scenes were all bad ass, yoda needed to be longer and i want more samuel jackson killing people. other than that it was a modest ending that didn't necassarily get me itching to see the next one.
I figured that in the next one the war continues and somehow amadala has 2 kids, and is then murdered. I'm guessing the last scene of Ep3 will be a look at anikan becoming darth vader, which i cannot wait for because it has the chance to be a bad ass scene. I would like to see less droids/funny aliens when it comes to intense battle or dramatic scenes. i don't mind that they are in the movie, but it takes so much away from a battle scene when you have those fools running around.
Morg~
05-20-2002, 03:53 PM
It was like C3P0 was apologizing for all the fighting. How uber gay. Kinda like undertaker taking the WWE title last night
AileeLynn
05-21-2002, 06:33 PM
Yoda pwns me. Other than that, I didn't like it.
I mean, sure I understand that it's mainly special effects... I understand that there were some kick-tail fight scenes... but I still like the old fashioned stuff where you can see the paint drips on the miniatures.
I want my own lightsabre.
FunHater
05-21-2002, 06:52 PM
Ailee brings up a good point. There were too many effects that were obviously effects, if you know what I mean. A lot of the environments, though looking impressive, some how lacked a sense of realism. There are way too many computer generated images, characters, whatever in the film. The abundance of these takes away from the experience instead of adding to it. Bring me back my late 70s/ early 80s effects. Those movies looked more realistic, honestly they did, I just watched A New Hope and Empire.
Dasyati
05-21-2002, 09:20 PM
You know, there was one thing bothering me.......I dunno if I mentioned this before, but you notice in the theatres, how the actors' edges aren't really that well defined against the backgrounds? I think that's some sort of artifact that comes from digital filming + blue screens, or something. It's distracting sometimes.
You know, if someone invented a functioning lightsaber, they'd sell it on TV opposite Dremels and Ginsu knives...
"Watch as the blade slices through AND cauterizes this tomato instantly! All the juice is locked in!"
positiveChAoS
05-21-2002, 10:32 PM
LOL das
slices through AND cauterizes HAH
Xcalibur
05-22-2002, 08:44 PM
I've heard a scientist say that they know HOW to make light sabres, the problem is no one is willing to cough up the exuberant amount of cash it would take just to make a prototype. the cost of one sabre could equal something like ending world hunger 4 times over.
Morg~
05-24-2002, 08:24 AM
or feeding edge for a couple days
EliteChicken
05-24-2002, 03:35 PM
and what exactly does the money go towards? it must be the size of a room or a small airport if it costs that much... hardly a handheld precision weapon...
Xcalibur
06-21-2002, 07:40 PM
I'm guessing the money would go towards the development and testing of the technology needed to hone the beam down. I'm sure the early types would be more like laser surgery utensils hooked up to a huge box than swords, but with time and research the size would downsize. Which is always the case in technology.
Dasyati
06-21-2002, 08:54 PM
Couldn't we just make the plastic lightsabers really sharp?
Morg~
06-22-2002, 12:53 PM
If you make plastic light sabers really sharp you are WRONG
Dasyati
06-22-2002, 08:13 PM
Well you're ugly!
EliteChicken
06-23-2002, 11:44 AM
but real lightsabers aren't directional... they're round, so they cut in all directions... a plastic one that was sharpened wouldn't be like that =(
Mr_Rage
06-23-2002, 01:22 PM
Who needs lightsabres when you have nukes? Now I agree that Jedi may be quite strong and quite powerful...but let's put a Jedi Knight into today's world and see if he could survive (If a Jedi can't survive in our primative society of today, how will he survive in the time of star wars with advanced technology and stuff).
Theoretical Situation #1
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A dark Jedi named Osama Bin Vader has obtained parts to create an atomic bomb. His home country, Afghanirepublic is providing his kind with shelter and weapons capable of delivering his new toy.
Meanwhile, Jedi Knight President George Windu Bush strategizes how to repel the oncoming nuclear missile. The missile is travelling too fast for conventional weaponry to stop it, and due to the limitations of various superpowers like the Europeon Union, he was unable to construct his Missile Defense System....the missile is on a course for the White House.
Mr. Windu Bush thinks to himself "What do we need missile defense for? I'll use my powers of the force! Afterall, I can use them to lift a 5 ton X-Wing/F-16, why can't I use them to stop a nuclear missile traveling at near Mach 1?"
While pondering this, the missile already had crashed into the Oval Office, destroying the better half of Washington DC.
Theoretical Situation #2
----------------------------
Osama Bin Vader is back to his old tricks and has hired a large group of Storm-Qaida Troopers and is training them in the united states. Back at home, President George Windu Bush thinks to himself "I'm presented with quite a bit of evidence from the FBI, however I'm still unsure of the exact place/time where this attack might occur. Now, I have two options here: 1.) Let the attacks come and launch a global war on terrorism. 2.) WHIP OUT MY LIGHTSABER AND KILL EVERY ARAB IN THE UNITED STATES!!!"
Surely enough Mr. Bush took out his lightsaber and began his quest. His hunt for terrorists eventually led him to a stop at the World Trade Center, where he entered and spoke to the Arab security officer.
Bush: "Good day."
Arab Guy: "Hello, praise be Allah"
Bush: "TERRORIST!!!!!"
As Bush stuffed his lightsaber up the man's rectum and watched it emerge from his chest cavity, an airplane crashed into the tower. Bush then realized it was quite a daunting task even for a Jedi Knight to stop such an attack.
So what do we have to learn from these scenarios? 5 things actually...
1.) Jedi Knights are pwned by terrorists
2.) Jedi Knights are pwned by nukes
3.) Jedi Knights are pwned by airplanes
4.) Jedi Knights are pwned by arabs
5.) Jedi Knights will ultimately never exist since they have already been theoretically pwned in today's modern society, and we can only imagine what kind of weaponry (bigger airplanes) the terrorists/dark side might get its hand on in a time similar to that of Star Wars.
Thank you, and good night
lonewolf{MP}
06-23-2002, 01:42 PM
ROFLMFAO
only one problem though with that Rage...
I have to blame this on the Arizona School district though.
So what do we have to learn from these scenarios? 2 things actually...
1.) Jedi Knights are pwned by terrorists
2.) Jedi Knights are pwned by nukes
3.) Jedi Knights are pwned by airplanes
4.) Jedi Knights are pwned by arabs
5.) Jedi Knights will ultimately never exist since they have already been theoretically pwned in today's modern society, and we can only imagine what kind of weaponry (bigger airplanes) the terrorists/dark side might get its hand on in a time similar to that of Star Wars.
GFG counting skills
hope you can conc better than you can count :)
Mr_Rage
06-23-2002, 02:00 PM
ROFLMFAO
only one problem though with that Lonewolf
I have to blame this on the general gayness that is Lonewolf though.
So what do we have to learn from these scenarios? 5 things actually...
1.) Jedi Knights are pwned by terrorists
2.) Jedi Knights are pwned by nukes
3.) Jedi Knights are pwned by airplanes
4.) Jedi Knights are pwned by arabs
5.) Jedi Knights will ultimately never exist since they have already been theoretically pwned in today's modern society, and we can only imagine what kind of weaponry (bigger airplanes) the terrorists/dark side might get its hand on in a time similar to that of Star Wars.
Thank you, and good night
GFG reading skills
hope you can have gay sex0rs better than you can read :)
(note: please refrain from reading the "last edited by yada yada"...i was...uhh...correcting some uh....typographical errors....yes....that will do nicely)
Dasyati
06-23-2002, 07:14 PM
If Jedi can move X-Wings they can surely stop airplanes. BTW the suicide Jedi would die out quickly I'm sure.
Hey, wouldn't it be safe to assume a Jedi could detonate a concentration of radioactive material with the Force?
EliteChicken
06-23-2002, 11:20 PM
Hey, wouldn't it be safe to assume a Jedi could detonate a concentration of radioactive material with the Force?
yes, but he wouldn't be around long after having detonated said concentration of material
Mr_Rage
06-24-2002, 04:50 PM
I can see it now...
Cruise missile headed towards D.C.
Obi-Wan stands up right where the missile is about to hit and whips out his light saber to deflect it like he does with lasers and stuff...
Methinks Jedi wouldn't last too long in modern society.
EliteChicken
06-24-2002, 09:26 PM
he could chop it into a bunch of little pieces like at the end of crouching tiger hidden dragon
Dasyati
06-24-2002, 09:57 PM
Yeah WTF is up with that blade? It only cuts shit up when you want it too. BAM, right through 3 or 4 thick, heavy, solid...bladed weapons. But it takes about 30 hits to cut through a brass pole.
Oh, and it stays sharp.
This has been another.....POINTLESS POOOOOOOOST!!!
EliteChicken
06-25-2002, 08:06 PM
agreed das
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